Originally published in Rave-Up #7 (1983)
By Devorah Ostrov
If we'd been CREEM, this pic of Mark, James & Frankie would've been
used for a "Star's Cars" feature. And it would've had a funny caption.
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D.J. and Frankie Photo: Devorah Ostrov |
Frankie: Oh, God yes!
James: Yeah! Clubs are okay sometimes, but we just play too many of them all the time. We get tired of it, and people get tired of seeing us. But since we don't have any product out, it's kind of difficult.
Frankie: I'd like to just see how we do with a crowd we've never played for, 'cause we've played and sort of manipulated a lot of these people in the Bay Area.
Rave-Up: How did it go when you were opening for groups like Ted Nugent and Cheap Trick?
Head On circa summer 1983. L-R: Mark Bergland, Howard Teman, D.J. Nicholson, James Ray, and Frankie Wilsey Photo: Devorah Ostrov |
Mark: Well, it's really hard to say. People try to pin that thing on us — "Well, you had the ball and you dropped it." But I don't know where we would've gotten more shows like those. Those shows that we got were LUCK!
Howard and James
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James: Every year that we've been together, we've set a goal and we've made it. When we first got together we said, "By February," or whatever, "we're going to be playing the Old Waldorf." So, we did. Then we said, "Let's open up for somebody big," and we got Ted Nugent, Cheap Trick, and Joe Perry. Then we said, "Let's put out some kind of a product," and we did a flexi-disc. We wanted to sell out a club, so we sold out a club. But those steps seem to have come a lot easier than this step [putting out an album]. A lot of times, the public doesn't realize that a band is taking steps, and if it takes them a long time, they'll forget about you. All you know about a band is what you read about them or see about them.
Rave-Up: Still, you are one of the few local bands with a strong following.
Frankie: Which surprises me! It's weird. We play dancy music, but nobody dances. We always discuss it... "This song had a good dancy feel when we were writing it." We'll play it pretty dancy, but NOBODY will bop or anything. It seems like they just sit sort of bewildered. Just like, "Wow, these guys are weird!"
Rave-Up: Do you guys get harassed because of the way you look?
Early promo photo featuring bassist Rick Tweed Head On logo designed by Ricky McMinn Photo: Dennis Callahan |
Rave-Up: She thought you were gay?
Frankie Wilsey Photo: Devorah Ostrov |
James: I even get it and I look normal! But when I go out, people just look at me like, "God, you're fucking weird!" It just bugs me when you go into a place and you get, "Queer! Faggot! FREAK!"
Frankie: Myself, I wear make-up all the time. I wear eyeliner practically every day; it's just a habit. It's something I've done for a long time. People will notice it more if I'm not wearing any. They won't say nothing when I'm wearing it, but when I don't wear it, it's "HEY!"
Rave-Up: Has the band always been as image-conscious as it is now?
Frankie: We were something acceptable in the beginning. We were a little more acceptable in the way of say, dress and our sound. We were a little on the "macho" side. Not so much metal, it was more of just a "macho" thing. We've changed to appeal to ourselves.
Mark and James
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Rave-Up: Do you have a hard time separating your real personalities from the way your fans see you — always partying, always drunk, living the rock 'n' roll lifestyle?
James: We're not ALWAYS drunk! That's Frankie! He's living the rock n' roll lifestyle for all of us.
The band hold a meeting in the vacant lot adjacent to Rave-Up HQ.
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Mark & D.J.
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Frankie: "Trash" was a little bit shaky in the beginning. I said, "The kids are gonna love that!" Just hearing the word "TRASH!" They don't even care what I'm singing during the verses, as long as they hear "TRASH!" They can relate to that. It reminds them of their girlfriend, or their day, or their job, or school... A lot of the time, I don't even know what David [Johansen] is saying in the verses. I say the same thing over and over. I had it down in the beginning, but we've done it so many times that I've lost it. I just start babbling anything. I used to love it when they [the fans] thought I'd wrote it.
Rave-Up #7 - cover boy Frankie
Wilsey made our readers swoon.
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* Many thanks to Rave-Up pen pal Connie Wallace who kept her copy of issue #7 and very kindly forwarded this interview to me.
* For more information about Head On, check out their Facebook page. Here's a link: https://www.facebook.com/HEAD-ON
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